NDP forms majority gov’t! or … Prime Minister Forever – Canada 2011 reviewed in the Globe and Mail

The Globe and Mail is Canada’s national newspaper, and Chad Sapieha recently reviewed Prime Minister Forever – Canada 2011 for it.

The good: “I have little doubt many armchair politicians will have a blast taking the helm of their favourite parties[.]”

The bad:

1. Chad says there were grammar and spelling mistakes. Not just mistakes, but frequent mistakes.

I’m not sure what he’s referring to, and no one else has reported such problems – so this was a little frustrating. If anyone has specific examples of spelling or grammar mistakes, please post them here and they will be fixed with the next release.

2. The high-score system didn’t reward his NDP and Green campaigns adequately.

This is a good point – I’ll take a look at the high-score algorithm again, but I can imagine it wouldn’t give the Greens, say, that high of a score even if they achieved their campaign goal of 1 seat, simply because the shift in seats and percentages would still be quite small absolutely speaking.

3. “[A] post-election message stated [May] failed to earn the Greens a place in the government, which was simply false, given that she won a riding.”

My understanding is: she would be part of Parliament, but not of the government (unless the Greens were part of a governing coalition). Political wonks’ feedback much appreciated on this.

4. “[M]ost of my beefs with Prime Minister Forever: Canada 2011 mirror my issues with real Canadian elections, such as our first past the post system.”

It’s not usual that we get complaints that the game works the way that country’s electoral system is supposed to work! (However, it would be nice to try an election out with a different electoral system, which is what the preference system in the game will do – it will be enabled probably in a few weeks or so, but it’s not high-priority right now.)

This leads me to the Great Onion of Complaint: complaints about games are like an onion. In the beginning, there are big complaints, which are like the outside layer of an onion. Once you fix those problems, there is another layer of complaint, which is like the next layer of the onion. After you fix those things, there is another layer, and so on. When people are complaining that there are grammatical errors, and that the game works as the electoral system is supposed to work (but they don’t like reality!), then from a game developer’s perspective, those are good complaints.

6 Responses to NDP forms majority gov’t! or … Prime Minister Forever – Canada 2011 reviewed in the Globe and Mail

  1. Nick April 30, 2011 at 10:04 am #

    Is President 2012 going to feel like a new game or is going to have the same technology as President forever 2008, but just feel like a new updated 2012 scenario? I hope there’s a bunch of new features that change the game because after playing the 2008 game for 3-4 years, I’m getting bored with it. Hopefully Theoryspark has added great Ideas to keep loyal customers glued to there screens. Crossing my fingers!

  2. anthony_270admin April 30, 2011 at 5:24 pm #

    P4E12 will have a new game engine. Thanks for the feedback!

  3. Jordan April 30, 2011 at 10:50 pm #

    I write frequently, and am gladly willing to provide feedback. Foremost, the written components of this game serve their purpose, and do not require drastic revision. However, there are a few instances where improvement may be warranted.

    2011 Scenario Description: The “perhaps” following NDP is unnecessary.

    Conservative Description: The final “ever” is redundant.

    Liberal Description: An accurate description would read “former director of Harvard University’s School of Government”.

    NDP Description: The health information contained in the parentheses causes wordiness. This can be altered to “…Layton’s bout with cancer…” or something similar.

    Bloc Description: Change the first “it’s” to “its”. Also, the closing sentence is confusing – rework or eliminate its last phrase. Consider changing the word “perhaps” to avoid sounding repetitive.

    Green Description: Change “runs” to “is running”.

    Independent: “Perhaps” is repetitive.

    I’ll examine the in-game text in the near future.

    Despite this criticism, the game remains well-written. Keep up the good work.

  4. anthony_270admin May 1, 2011 at 4:53 pm #

    Hi Jordan, thanks very much for this. I’ve now fixed the ‘it’s’ ‘its’ typo in the latest internal.

  5. Joshua May 6, 2011 at 6:19 am #

    I love the game and the new interface but I miss some of the elements from the 2008 version like the minor parties, candidate editor, and I find that even on hard it is much to easy and I can win ridings that I should never be able to win (such as playing as the NDP and winning the Prime Ministers riding that he safely gets 70% in.) Anyways those are my thoughts great game keep up the good work.

  6. anthony_270admin May 6, 2011 at 3:58 pm #

    Hi Joshua, a candidate editor will be added later (maybe in a few weeks), and the computer players will be more difficult to beat on medium and hard (probably in the next release). Thanks for the feedback!

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