Release: President Forever 2012 v. 1.2.4

President Forever 2012 v. 1.2.4 has been released. This fixes a few bugs, including the save ‘out of memory’ error.

What we’re working on next: A button to set Surrogates to automatic among other things.

To update:

http://270soft.com/updates-redownloads/

Version information:

http://270soft.com/updates-redownloads/president-forever-2012-version-information/

30 Responses to Release: President Forever 2012 v. 1.2.4

  1. GOPGipper October 2, 2012 at 5:35 pm #

    It’s very well made. The primary part of the campaign is especially amazing now, because on hard, it is really difficult and you have a lot of surprises thrown your way. Maybe make a “nigh on impossible” setting πŸ™‚

    Two points only πŸ™‚

    1) The primary results – vote totals should be displayed somewhere please πŸ™‚

    2) The effects of the Primary on the General Election is sometimes too strong. Is there a way to take it down a notch, a few notches so the GE is competitive? Sometimes the primary effort is so strong that the GE becomes a formality.

    3) The AI is a little quirky – it’s not targeting as efficiently as it should be just yet. But it’s much better.

  2. GOPGipper October 2, 2012 at 5:36 pm #

    Oh, of course, third party spoilers that could take away votes in the race from the main candidates…but I’m guessing that’s intended at some point.

  3. GOPGipper October 2, 2012 at 5:39 pm #

    Oh one last thing – the 98% reporting error is happening again.

  4. Harry October 2, 2012 at 6:50 pm #

    In 2016, would Jeb Bush have his Father/Grandfather as surrogates? And they could be endorsers in 2012 as well. Also, thanks for fixing those bugs. πŸ˜€

  5. Rz9392 October 2, 2012 at 7:05 pm #

    Well it’s impossible to win as Rick Perry. Not that i’m complaining because that’s what happened in the real campaign, but even with debate prep, the short time frame doesn’t allow debate prep to turn his skills around.

  6. Harry October 2, 2012 at 7:22 pm #

    brother/father^^ sorry, I pulled a bachmann.

  7. Jonathan October 2, 2012 at 8:22 pm #

    I think both Bush’s (if both are alive) would campaign subtly. First Bush probably would be able to leave Texas. The 2nd one would probably be much more low key except in states that would probably vote for Bush anyway, just to get the base more excited. Therefore, his surrogate ratings would have to either be low, or somehow enhanced in deep red states.

  8. Harry October 2, 2012 at 8:46 pm #

    I was playing the 2016 scenario as Bush, when right after the Texas primaries, suddenly it said ‘Rubio Locks Up Nomination’ in the news, which was not true. He had 869 delegates and I had 718.

  9. Kevin October 3, 2012 at 6:00 am #

    Will there be icons such as the lock from P4e08 to indicate visually when a state has already voted or when a state is being targeted?

  10. anthony_270admin October 3, 2012 at 10:59 am #

    @Kevin,

    Thanks for this – both those icons will be added in the near future.

  11. anthony_270admin October 3, 2012 at 5:19 pm #

    @GOPGipper,

    Thanks for the feedback – noted.

  12. anthony_270admin October 3, 2012 at 5:20 pm #

    @Harry,

    I’ll look into the ‘Locks Up Nomination’ – thanks.

  13. kevin October 3, 2012 at 9:02 pm #

    I have one thing that i just thought of.
    Using the same issue positions all the same does not explain a candidates views on that issue if you could have a specific idea that each candidate has his/her difference compared to the other candidates. Each could be classified as the explanation but add the candidates own ideas into it, like on the issue of taxes for example, several republicans liked the idea of a flat tax however they did not all agree on what the flat tax should be. Therefore if one candidate likes the idea of a 9% flat tax you might add that into his views on that topic, and therefore

  14. kevin October 3, 2012 at 9:08 pm #

    I have one thing that i just thought of.
    Using the same issue positions all the same does not explain a candidates views on that issue if you could have a specific idea that each candidate has his/her difference compared to the other candidates. Each could be classified as the explanation but add the candidates own ideas into it, like on the issue of taxes for example, several republicans liked the idea of a flat tax however they did not all agree on what the flat tax should be. Therefore if one candidate likes the idea of a 9% flat tax you might add that into his views on that topic, and therefore it would make speeches more accurate and it also gives more insights into attacking the other candidate on his views even if they are both categorized the same. Also, continuing on the campaign slogan idea i believe that it is a good idea and i think you could add this idea into the theme area and it could be changed throughout the game like between the primaries and the general election. Also, on the creating scandals i would like to see leadership scandals, integrity scandals, and experience scandals like in the 2008 version and keep the corruption scandal as well

  15. anthony_270admin October 4, 2012 at 12:52 pm #

    @Kevin,

    Thanks for this feedback. Noted. They idea of creating scandals that will run on different issues is also noted.

  16. Rz9392 October 4, 2012 at 1:21 pm #

    Shouldn’t we have the option to accept or decline a debate?

    The economy should be added to issues with not having a position like leadership but is set to poor – great.

  17. anthony_270admin October 4, 2012 at 1:30 pm #

    @Rz9392,

    Accepting or declining debates added to the possible features list. The mechanism itself is straightforward, but figuring out how to deal with the consequences would be a little more tricky.

    Integrating the economy into the issues is a good idea – noted.

  18. Nick October 4, 2012 at 4:11 pm #

    For the 2016 scenario when playing as Clinton a vast majority of the polling for the strategy screen comes up ‘undefined’ with an x.

  19. Stephen (D-VA) October 5, 2012 at 7:31 am #

    Hi There,

    Love your game guys.

    I would first like to echo what was mentioned in another post by Jonathan: assuming they haven’t flip-flopped, it’d be nice to see states react more to a candidate’s issue positioning; “I’d like the states to matter a little more. As an experiment, I had Romney go left wing on everything and Obama go right wing on everything. I started in the primary, Obama and Romney still won the states they were supposed to win. The % of undecided voters was large for a long time, but inevitably, conservatives voted for a Liberal Romney over a Conservative Obama, and vice versa.”

    Also, if/when (please) can we expect Congress Forever 2012 (+earlier – I would love to go back as far as 2000-2012; your Senate maps are my favorite, followed by the Presidency).

  20. kevin October 6, 2012 at 9:20 am #

    Do y’all know if you are going to insert where you can choose when to enter the race. Also during the beginnings of the game i remember you stating that y’all were going to start the game at an earlier date us that still in the plans?

  21. Jonathan October 6, 2012 at 11:30 am #

    I think an early date would be preferable because then you can include Herman Cain and Pawlenty and have them drop out if they can’t get high enough in the polls (or if a huge scandal occurs) before the primaries. Also, it allows for Santorum to improve is start game position. Santorum is the only really inaccurate candidate in the game so far. Also, Gingrich could become more scandal prone, or more of a turn-off, or something. He generally remains a lot stronger than he should be, but that might be because Santorum isn’t taking votes from him. I think Romney and Paul are accurate.

    Of the what-if candidates: I think Christie could be even stronger. I think Clinton’s strength should depend on how the economy is doing.

  22. Peterson October 7, 2012 at 3:16 pm #

    I found a bug. When I clicked to go to the Electoral Strategy Screen, it gave me an error: “Access violation at address 0055B515 in module ‘p4e12.exe’. Read of address 000001D8.”
    It didn’t do this at first. I first saw it not long before the Iowa Caucus.

  23. Peterson October 7, 2012 at 3:17 pm #

    Forgot to mention this: this happened in the 2016 scenario while playing as John Thune.

  24. Peterson October 7, 2012 at 4:18 pm #

    Another thing: I played as Romney once in the 2012 general election. It said that I won, but I didn’t. Obama had 284 electoral votes, I had 254.

  25. Sagar October 7, 2012 at 4:34 pm #

    I’ve seen the β€œAccess violation at address 0055B515 in module β€˜p4e12.exe’. Read of address 000001D8.” while playing as Perry in 2012 and Jindal in 2016.

  26. Kafka October 8, 2012 at 7:52 am #

    Please consider adding these candidates as 2016 candidates :

    REP

    Sarah Palin as Presidential candidate.

    Nikki Haley, Susana Martinez and Scott Brown as Vice-presidential candidate.

    DEM

    Kirsten Gillibrand, Kay Hagan as Vice-presidential candidate.

    Ah, also can you strengthen vp candidate’s energy?
    It’s even hard to prepping debate for Hillary Clinton as VP candidate.

  27. anthony_270admin October 9, 2012 at 4:36 pm #

    @Kafka,

    Thanks for the suggestions – noted.

    I’ll look into VP energy.

  28. anthony_270admin October 9, 2012 at 4:37 pm #

    @Peterson,

    Thanks for the bug report – I will attempt to replicate it.

  29. anthony_270admin October 9, 2012 at 4:38 pm #

    @Kevin,

    The ability to start a candidate at a variable time might be implemented – we’ll see. There might be another 2012 scenario starting earlier – feedback noted on this.

  30. anthony_270admin October 9, 2012 at 4:39 pm #

    @Stephen (D-VA),

    Thanks for the feedback! I would like to add 2012 scenarios to Congress Forever. The big issue is time. We’ll see.

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