1912 will be the third scenario for President Forever 2012. The candidates and provisional issues have been added, but the details for the Presidential primaries are still being added. This is a way for me to keep track of the details, as well as for anyone who has additional details to post them – they’ll then be added to the main post (please provide references, either URLs or books-journals-and so on). ‘?’s indicate the number is at this point unknown.
R North Dakota, Primary, La Follette 32,123, 57.2% (? delegates), Roosevelt 23,669 39.7% (? delegates), Taft 1,867 3.1% (? delegates)
D North Dakota, Primary, Burke 9,357, 100% (10 delegates for Wilson)
R New York, Primary?, %? Taft (? delegates) (primary law optional, Republican elected pledged delegates, figures unavailable)
R Wisconsin, Primary, La Follette 133,354 73.2% (? delegates), Taft 47,514 26.1% (? delegates), 628 0.3% Roosevelt (not on ballot, ? delegates), Others 643 0.4%
D Wisconsin, Primary,Wilson 45,945 55.7% (? delegates), Clark 36,464 44.2%, Others 148 0.2%
D Alabama, Primary, ?% Underwood (? delegates)
R Iowa, County Conventions, 52% Taft (? delegates), 46% Cummins (? delegates), 2% Roosevelt (? delegates)
R Illinois, Primary, Roosevelt 266,917, 61.1% (? delegates), Taft 127,481 29.2% (? delegates), La Follette 42,692 9.8% (? delegates)
D Illinois, Primary, Clark 218,483 74.3% (? delegates), Wilson 75,527 25.7% (? delegates)
R Pennsylvania, Primary, Roosevelt 282,853 59.7% (? delegates), Taft 191,179 40.3% (? delegates), 0% La Follette (not on ballot?, 0 delegates) (unofficial figures)
D Pennsylvania, Primary, Wilson 98,000 100% (? delegates) (unofficial figures)
R Nebraska, Primary, Roosevelt 45,795 58.7% (? delegates), Taft 16,785 21.5% (? delegates), La Follette 13,341 17.1% (? delegates), Others 2,036 2.6%
D Nebraska, Primary, Clark 21,027 41% (? delegates), Wilson 14,289 27.9% (? delegates), Harmon 12,454 24.3%, Others 3,499 6.8%
R Oregon, Primary, Roosevelt 28,905 40.2% (? delegates), La Follette 22,491 31.3% (? delegates), Taft 20,517 28.5% (? delegates), Others 14 0%
D Oregon, Primary, Wilson 9,588 53%, Clark 7,857 43.4%, Harmon 606 3.3%, Others 49 0.3%
R Massachusetts, Primary, Taft 86,722 50.4% (? delegates), Roosevelt 83,099 48.3% (? delegates), La Follette 2,058 1.2% (? delegates), Others 99 0.1%
D Massachusetts, Primary, Clark 34,575 68.9% (? delegates), Wilson 15,002 29.9%, Others 627 1.2%
D Georgia, Primary, ?% Underwood (? delegates)
R Nevada, Primary, ?% Taft (? delegates)
D Nevada, Primary, ?% Clark (? delegates)
D Texas, Primary, ?% Wilson (? delegates)
R Maryland, Primary, Roosevelt 29,124 52.8% (? delegates), Taft 25,995 47.2% (? delegates), 0% La Follette (not on ballot, 0 delegates)
D Maryland, Primary, Clark 34,021 54.4% (? delegates), Wilson 21,490 34.3% (? delegates), Harmon 7,070 11.3% (? delegates)
D Mississippi, ?% Underwood (? delegates)
R California, Primary, Roosevelt 138,563 54.6% (? delegates), Taft 69,345 27.3% (? delegates), La Follette 45,876 18.1% (? delegates)
D California, Clark 43,163 71.5% (? delegates), Wilson 17,214 28.5%
R Ohio, Primary, Roosevelt 165,809 55.3% (? delegates), Taft 118,362 39.5% (? delegates), La Follette 15,570 5.2% (? delegates)
D Ohio, Primary, Harmon 96,164 51.7% (? delegates), Wilson 85,084 45.7% (? delegates), Bryan 2,428 1.3% (? delegates), Clark 2,440 1.3% (? delegates)
R New Jersey, Primary, Roosevelt 61,297 56.3% (? delegates), Taft 44,034 40.5% (? delegates), La Follette 3,464 3.2% (? delegates)
D New Jersey, Primary, Wilson 48,336 98.9% (? delegates), Clark 522 1.1% (write-in)
D Arizona, Primary, ?% Clark (? delegates)
D Rhode Island, Primary, ?% Clark (? delegates)
R South Dakota, Primary, Roosevelt 38,106 55.2% (? delegates), Taft 19,960 28.9% (? delegates), La Follette 10,944 15.9% (? delegates)
D South Dakota, Primary, Wilson 4,694 35.2% (? delegates), Clark 4,275 32% and Clark 2,722 20.4% (? delegates), Others 1,655 12.4% (Brown?) (3 sets of delegates ran, one of which supported Wilson, two identified with Clark, delegates were given to Wilson by the convention)
1912 Republican Convention, First Ballot, Delegates
Ala 24 22 Taft, 2 Present, not voting
Ariz 6 Taft
Ark 18 17 Taft, 1 P
Cali 26 2 Taft, 24 P
Colo 12 Taft
Conn 14 Taft
Del 6 Taft
Flo 12 Taft
Geor 28 Taft
Idaho 8 Taft
Illinois 58 2 Taft, 53 Roosevelt, 1 P
Ind 30 20 Taft, 3 Roosevelt, 7 P
Iowa 26 16 Taft
Kan 20 2 Taft, 18 P
Kent 26 24 Taft, 2 Roosevelt
Louis 20 Taft
Maine 12 P
Maryland 16 1 Taft, 9 Roosevelt, 5 P
Mass 36 15 Taft, 21 P
Mich 30 20 Taft, 9 Roosevelt, 1 P
Minn 24 P
Miss 20 17 Taft, 3 P
Mo 36 16 Taft, 20 P
Mon 8 Taft
Neb 16 2 Roosevelt, 14 P
Nev 6 Taft
NH 8 Taft
NJ 28 2 Roosevelt, 26 P
NM 8 7 Taft, 1 Roosevelt
NY 90 76 Taft, 8 Roosevelt, 6 P
NC 24 1 Taft, 1 Roosevelt, 22 P
ND 10 unknown (prob. La Follette)
Ohio 48 14 Taft, 34 P
Ok 20 4 Taft, 1 Roosevelt, 15 P
Or 10 8 Roosevelt, 2 P
Penn 76 9 Taft, 2 Roosevelt, 62 P
RI 10 Taft
SC 18 16 Taft, 1 P, 1 unknown
SD 10 5 Roosevelt, 5 unknown (prob. La Follette)
Tenn 24 23 Taft, 1 Roosevelt
Texas 40 31 Taft, 8 P, 1 unknown
Utah 8 Taft
Vermont 8 6 Taft, 2 P
Virginia 24 22 Taft, 1 Roosevelt, 1 unknown
Wash 14 Taft
WV 16 P
Wisc 26 unknown (prob. La Follette)
Wyoming 6 Taft
Alaska 2 Taft
DC 2 Taft
Hawaii 6 Taft
Phill. Islands 2 Taft
PR 2 Taft
La Follette 41
Charles E. Hughes 2
absent and not voting 7
(Roosevelt instructed his delegates to vote ‘present’ to protest against the way delegates were awarded)
1912 Democratic Convention, First Ballot, Delegates
Alabama 24 Underwood
Arizona 6 Clark
Arkansas 18 Clark
Calif 26 Clark
Colo 12 Clark
Conn 14 unknown (prob. Baldwin)
Del 6 Wilson
Fla 12 Underwood
Ga 28 Underwood
Idaho 8 Clark
Ill 58 Clark
Ind 30 unknown (prob. Marshall)
Iowa 26 Clark
Kan 20 Clark
Ky 26 Clark
La 20 11 Clark, 9 Wilson
Maine 12 1 Clark, 9 Wilson, 2 Underwood
Md 16 Clark
Mass 36 Clark
Mich 30 12 Clark, 10 Wilson, 7 Harmon
Minn 24 Wilson
Miss 20 Underwood
Mo 36 Clark
Mont 8 Clark
Neb 16 12 Clark, 4 Harmon
Nev 6 Clark
NH 8 Clark
NJ 28 2 Clark, 24 Wilson, 2 Underwood
NM 8 Clark
NY 90 Harmon
NC 24 16.5 Wilson, 0.5 Harmon, 7 Underwood
ND 10 Wilson
Ohio 48 1 Clark, 10 Wilson, 35 Harmon
Okla 20 10 Clark, 10 Wilson
Ore 10 Wilson
Pa 76 71 Wilson, 5 Harmon
RI 10 Clark
SC 18 Wilson
SD 10 Wilson
Tenn 24 6 Clark, 6 Wilson, 6 Harmon, 6 Underwood
Texas 40 Clark
Utah 8 1.5 Clark, 6 Wilson, 0.5 Harmon
Vt 8 unknown (prob. Baldwin)
Va 24 9.5 Wilson, 14.5 Underwood
Wash 14 Clark
W. Va 16 Clark
Wis 26 6 Clark, 19 Wilson
Wyo 6 Clark
Alaska 6 Clark
DC 6 Clark
Hawaii 6 2 Clark, 3 Wilson, 1 Underwood
Phil. Is. 6 unknown
PR 6 2 Clark, 3 Wilson, 1 Underwood
not voting 8
Congressional Quarterly’s Guide to U.S. Elections, 2nd Ed., 1985
23 thoughts on “1912 Presidential Primaries Results”
Sounds pretty awesome.
I’d say 1920 would be another one to look at for the near-future, with the convention resulting in about ten rounds of voting before Warren G. Harding finally won the nomination. I think he had about 6% or so of the delegates going into the convention as well.
Pretty fascinating race, really.
NY Pres Primary was on 3-26-1912
Here is everything that I can find in regards to the primaries.
The totals: Senator LaFollette won a total of 36 delegates; President Taft won 48 delegates; and Roosevelt won 278 delegates. However 36 states did not hold primaries. (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1912_Republican_National_Convention)
This is an extremely helpful website for 1912: http://presidentialcampaignselectionsreference.wordpress.com/overviews/20th-century/1912-overview/
Additionally, this is also helpful:
The Primary Season of 1912
The jockeying by Taft, Roosevelt, and LaFollette began in state conventions and continued through the primary season. By the time of the first presidential preference primary, held in North Dakota on 3/19/1912, Taft was leading in the delegate count with 127 to 10 for his challengers. These delegates had been chosen in conventions. NYT 3/14/1912
Voters who braved the cold rain in North Dakota on primary day (3/19/1912) handed the first official presidential primary to LaFollette. The campaign there was almost exclusively a TR vs. LaFollette race; LaFollette ended up with 57% to 40% for TR and 3% for Taft. Roosevelt explained the loss was due to Democrats who voted for LaFollette to embarrass his candidacy. [NYT 3/20/1912]
Pres. Taft’s first major victory came in New York’s primary on 3/26/1912. Just before the vote, the New York Times reported that Taft had won 134 out of the 170 delegates chosen nationwide [NYT 3/24/1912]. New York Republicans voted overwhelmingly for Taft, by roughly a 2:1 margin. New York City gave Taft nearly 70% of the vote there. It was a stunning repudiation of Roosevelt in his home state and his second loss in the first two presidential primaries.
Roosevelt changed his strategy following his New York debacle. He issued an ultimatum to Republicans on 3/28/1912 to nominate him; otherwise, he would run as an independent [NYT 3/28/1912]. With local conventions being held nearly on a daily basis, Roosevelt was falling further behind in the delegate counts.
LaFollette scored another major victory on 4/2/1912 when he won his home state of Wisconsin. He defeated Taft by a 73-26% margin; Roosevelt missed the filing deadline but received some write-in votes.
Roosevelt’s fortunes began to change with the Illinois primary on 4/9/1912. In his first primary victory, TR won 61% of the vote to Taft 29% and LaFollette 10%. Roosevelt won every county, though Taft won some Congressional Districts in Chicago. Including NYS, the count of delegates chosen in primaries was Taft-84, TR-68, and LaFollette-36.
In the two weeks following the Illinois primary, Roosevelt won three states. He defeated Taft by a 60-40% margin in PA on 4/13/1912. Nebraska and Oregon voted on 4/19/1912. Roosevelt won NE with 59% (Taft placed behind LaFollette) and OR with 40% to LaFollette 31% and Taft 29%. Taft ended the month with a 50-48% win in Massachusetts. Due to the MA ballot offering a presidential preference separate from the delegate vote, TR won more delegates even though he placed second. At the end of the month, Roosevelt was leading in delegates chosen in primaries with 179 to 108 for Taft and 36 for LaFollette. The nationwide delegate count, however, was Taft 428, TR 204, and LaFollette 36. [NYT 4/28/1912]
Five states voted in the final four weeks of the primary season, and Roosevelt won all five states. He won Maryland 53-47 over Taft. In California, Roosevelt received 55% to Taft 27% and LaFollette 18%. The major shock of the primary season was TR’s 55-40% defeat of Taft in his home state of Ohio on 5/21/1912. One week later, TR won New Jersey, 56-41%. The primary season ended in South Dakota, where TR won 55% to Taft 29% and LaFollette 16%.
Altogether, TR won 284 delegates in the primaries to 125 for Taft and 36 for LaFollette. Including delegates chosen in party conventions, Taft had a 571-439 margin, placing Taft over the 540 needed for nomination. [NYT 5/29/1912]
Overall, I’m surprised it is so difficult to find good info on this. I’m at work, but I’ll check the national archives website when I’m at home. Anyway, these three links should help.
Ya, we’ll be looking at which scenario to add next after 1912 is done – suggestion noted.
Thanks – date added and Green Papers resource link added.
Thanks for this – added the 1912 Republican National Convention link as a resource.
Actually, Burke was not a candidate for the Democratic nomination. He supported Wilson and was pushed by William Jennings Bryan to be their vice presidential candidate, but he declined. Perhaps he could be included as a VP choice for Democrats.
Also, will you include possible candidates who didn’t actually run like you did in 2012 with Clinton and Christie? And how will you implement Roosevelt into the Republican and Progressive parties? It would be strange if a Republican Roosevelt is running against a Progressive Roosevelt in the general election.
And will Eugene Debs,the Socialist nominee, be included as a minor candidate? The 1912 election was his best showing, having six percent of the popular vote.
I forgot to mention that the information on Burke came from his page on wikipedia.
In the game currently, Burke is a VP nominee (as you suggested), and not a Presidential candidate. However, it appears that he won the ND Democratic primary. See here:
No hypothetical candidates for 1912 at this point.
Roosevelt will probably be dealt with by not allowing him to start in the primaries for the Bull Moose party, and then allowing a jump if he loses the Republican primary. We’ll see.
Debs is currently included.
I think 1880 would be a really cool next election. Grant’s attempt at a non-consecutive 3rd term.
As for 1912, I think you can find some primary data here, if you scroll down to 1912:
Thanks for this – I’ve added the relevant info and the link to the resources.
1876 would be an interesting one as well. Tilden wins the popular vote by about 4%, but Hayes the Electoral College vote by 1 single vote.
GOP Convention had 7 rounds of voting before settling on Hayes. Blaine was the “front-runner” the whole way until round 7.
Democrat nomination was more uneventful. Tilden almost won it round one, and clinched the second round.
1848 was relatively close. Third party pulled 10% of the popular vote.
1836 had a fractured Whig Party, with two nominees. Maybe have a scenario where they join forces at the Whig convention, and see if a unified Whig Party can beat Martin Van Buren?
1824 was an interesting race as well.
Just a few ideas. Take any, all, none, whatever you think best. 🙂
Yes, I agree all of those are interesting. However, anything before 1828 is very difficult, because most of the states didn’t have a popular vote.
Here is tactic you can use to get information if it proves elusive: send an email to a professor who has written a book on an election. Generally, the author, if still living, will have an email address at the university where he/she teaches at. You could ask an expert on the 1912 (or any election) where you could find state-by-state primary results for the election.
I’ve done this before when working on projects. Sometimes I’ve received very long and detailed information. Generally, they’re passionate about the subject and happy to respond.
Thanks for the suggestion – I’ll use that as a resort if the other sources don’t have it.
I’ve added more details about the primaries, as well as the delegate totals per state and votes on the first ballot at the party conventions. Source is the Congressional Quarterly’s Guide to U.S. Elections.
Awesome. What else do you need now for the 1912 scenario?
Sounds awesome! More historical elections are always a good thing!
Any idea when we’ll see a candidate editor? I’m looking forward to playing as myself.
i understand that the 1912 scenario that p4e12 was shipped was a beta, so thought i might drop some info in from when i am playing. i started as debs during the primaries, and as of monday 22nd july, i have 44.2% of the vote!!!!!, beating the dems who have 30.5 and reps with 19.5%!!!!!!!
basically, the newspaper adverts are far to powerful and or far far too cheap. the entire country only costs me $304!!!!! to run an advert and with a bank balance of over $14m, that is not a problem. I have been rather restrained and only run 3 for me so far every 5 turns and 3 attacking the reps, however this leads to momentum for me of over 15 every turn and constant republican ‘campaign collapse’.
the only limit if i chose to go full time on adverts, is how quickly i could produce them and i have little difficulty in believing that if i attack the dems as well, i could end up with 60% of the vote and all 48 states.(currently i hold 417 / 531 electoral college votes)
i was wondering if this could be addressed for a future version. Also, though i saw it mentioned, i have seem no indication that roosevelt will join race, Taft won rep primaries.
one last point. on game i have played, 2016 and 1912 with primaries active, candidates defeated in the primaries are not deleted from the game. This causes a major problem in the general, as the momentum for a candidate does not replace the party value. Not sure if this was caused by it, but in 2016, i reduced rubio to 19% just before election day (with me at 55% and rest undecided), and ec dominance, though on polling day, most votes went to rubio, even tho i had massive +ve momentum and he had massive -ve momentum.
hope this helps tweak the scenarios. thanks for the great game.
Alex, United Kingdom